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Jenny Jameerbocus's avatar

It's a very interesting project. I can't wait to read more ! Have a great day!

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Sanja Kosonen's avatar

Hi,

thank you for your answer.

It cleared me up some of your points.

I have no trouble of seeing juggling us a unique thing, but I still didn't get the point, how it would be differently unique than for example the handstand, you mentioned.

What I find interesting, is to understands, what makes it unique.

While waiting for the handstand tribe's answer,

from my point of view, I could define wire-dancing as a game of playing with the limits of our body-balance on a narrow surface. (I'm not engaging here with a definitive definition! Just one try out)

Making then alliance with the slack-liners, there can be found wire-walking in arts, sports, extreme sports, in some meditation practices, as a game or even in some religious rituals (Mexican Marimero's still use ritual wire-dancing in some religious celebrations!) And in any context, it would still be seen as wire-walking and not necessary art. It would have the same” essence”, the same state of body and mind, the state on perpetual movements of controlling the off balances. And it would still be seen as wire-walking even if we change the surface (walking on bottles, walking on a rope, on a wire, on stones.. on whatever that forces the body in fragile balance, fighting from falling down). And for each of us, on it's own level: there is no special physical condition required.

Question: can juggling exist without an object? Or rather, can this ANY object, be a NON object?

I also really like to think that juggling is fundamentally useless.

Still, for a useless ”thing”, juggling has been existing thousands of years. Shouldn't some kind of cultural evolution erase useless things from humanity?

Why on earth juggling still keeps existing?!! :)

But if willing to debate, there must be many advantages for body and mind, for some limited groups of people. I cant' see the difference you see with handstand, as juggling needs also body and mind abilities, as concentration, precision, some muscles and a lot of resistance to frustration.. Actually quite many abilities, that many of us doesn't have it all, as juggling still stays rather a rare phenomenon, despite it's accessibility

Maybe circus is rarely OF something, but it definitely is FROM something. I could see juggling as one branch of the big tree of object manipulation. Seeing here object manipulation as a human quality of manipulating object and tools. One of the qualities that has helped greatly the humankind to take over our planet...

For wire-dancing, the tree would be the big tree of balancing, that is also an ability, that made the human species to stand on his two feet.

I found it very interesting, that there can be found a very primordial base FROM what our very useless activities has been developed from. And as one of human qualities is the curiosity and going further (circus) , it could give an explication why these useless activities had survived in cultural evolution of humankind.

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